Family Speed Links - Lawsuit Forces eHarmony To Provide Dating Services To Gays
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 Posted by Shattered Paradigm
*eHarmony has formally agreed to provide same-sex matches as part of a lawsuit settlement. We could hardly believe this story when we first saw it. *Government officials in the U.K. want to double the number of girls using long term contraceptive jabs and implants. That won't protect them from the dozens of sexually transmitted diseases out there.
*A new study reveals that unhappy people watch a lot more television. How much television have you watched today?
*A senior aide to Senator Barbara Boxer was fired a while back after he was charged with distributing and receiving child pornography. Another indication that the U.S. government is full of corruption.
*U.S. government money for the U.N. Population Fund that supports China's policy of coercive abortion will apparently flow once again during the Obama Administration. If you want to know the truth, history shows that the one-child policy in China was the brainchild of U.S. government officials to begin with.
*A new survey has found that a majority of Americans believe that religious values are "under attack" and that Hollywood does not share the religious and moral values of most Americans. Should we be surprised?
*A new poll in the U.K. has found that more than half of all adults think that British children are beginning to behave like animals. Perhaps if the U.K. stopped teaching them that they evolved from animals and that they are animals then they would stop behaving like animals.
*A father in the U.K. was arrested and held in prison overnight after he slapped his seven-year-old son Harry on the back of the legs. No more spanking in the U.K.?
*One university in Canada has hired student spies to listen to the conversations of their fellow students and step in when they overhear homophobic slurs, remarks bashing women or racially tinged insults, along with an array of other language that could be deemed offensive. Suddenly it seems as though we are living in the book "1984".
DisRESPECTING Your Husband..... Do you do this?
Friday, December 26, 2008 Posted by Shattered Paradigm
The wise woman builds up her home but the foolish woman tears it down with her own hands" Prov.14:1
*Both are spiritually equal, as far as receiving the blessings of forgiveness of sins and hope of eternal life, if they respond to Jesus by obedient faith. GEN 1:26
*Men and women are to submit themselves to each other in respect to God as Ephesians 5:21
Christians are not to aspire after dominance but usefulness. Self-denial rather than self-assertiveness is the badge of Christian discipleship.Submitting yourselves one to another means mutually serving one another, seeking each other’s well-being and advantage in all things.-pbministries
Being A Woman are you to have SUBMISSION to every man? No, you are to be submissive to your HUSBAND . This means that the husband is to be regarded as the head of the family; and he has responsibility to provide for, protect, and be the spiritual leader of the family. You are to have respect for men, being a Godly woman.
Do you know there is a difference between the roles of the Father and Jesus?..... So there is between men and women. These differences in roles involve submission of one to the other and a dividing of responsibilities among the two.
This does not mean for a man then to take his role as demeaning the other , overbearing and destructive in his words and actions to his wife? NO, rather, MEN are to love their wives like God loves the church.
When a wife corrects her husband in public is vocally disrespectful , she is slowly beating her husbands dignity out of him over time. It comes from pride and self glory that they need to dominate their husbands .
Have you watched a tv program or a movie as of late where the wife lifts up her husband instead of throwing insults at him?
In fact, you see the opposite. You see the woman dominance of the man, and you see network stations creating the image that men are stupid, and women are the painted picture of success.
In many instances the tv networks are pushing gay unions in movies, destroying how marriage should be set up.
Many people do not understand the beauty of (submission), such that, .... lifting up your husband so he can be the best he can be. In this way, wives, - we are encouraging our husbands to be successful and leaders in their communities, empowering them from home. FOR, if we destroy our husbands at home, we TOO, reap the outcome as well.
These Videos Below are NOT biblical, and (does contain some swear words) but follow the biblical Lines of male and female roles in the bible even though the speaker may not be Christian.
I think you may find he has some interesting points.
Causes of Divorce - The Top 10 Reasons People Divorce
Friday, December 26, 2008 Posted by Shattered Paradigm
What IS The SECRET To Your Happy Marriage?
Friday, December 26, 2008 Posted by Shattered Paradigm
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by happycthulhu
Total honesty and commitment. 100% from each person. Understanding and willingness to compromise.
Going on 10 years strong.
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by good36
We just celebrated 21 years in September. I think the key to a long marriage is compromise. Honesty is a must too. You are never going to see eye to eye on everything. I knew what I wanted in a man when I married him. He is a wonderful father, husband and provider. judy
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by meghane
Love, respect, common life plans, honesty, trust, fun times together.
Almost 14 years and loving every minute of it.
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by mgmsrk
The only thing you need for a happy marriage is to marry the right person.
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by meghane
I forgot to add a sense of humor!
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by lynnzee
Married 35 years, there's not an easy answer as everyone is different. For us, sharing broad goals, thinking somewhat alike, understanding there will be differences, not wanting the other to be unhappy, compromise without loss of self, sharing fears as well as successes, mainly mutual respect. We enjoy our children and grandchildren. Lynn
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by gina_w
17 years here. Marry a compatible person and don't sweat the small stuff. Compatible means you share common values, beliefs and goals, including money issues, religion, politics and having/raising children.
Keep growing - educate yourselves, read, have hobbies (individual and shared), meet new people and cultivate friends. Treat your relationship as an adventurous journey through life together.
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by davissue_zone9
We've been married 31 years- have a hard time believing it's been so long! We married in our early twenties, and never a day goes by that I don't marvel at how lucky we are to have each other. We're each others first lover, so there's no past relationships to be a problem. We are very compatible in values, socio-economic background, religion and politics. We have no major problems- financial or otherwise. We trust each other completely, and make an effort not to do anything that we know hurts or bothers the other. We will compromise if a situation arises that we both feel strongly about. We respect each other, and we both think the other is smarter than we are. We admire each others strengths, and accept each others weaknesses.
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by peachespoe
Married almost 7 years, but together for 12 and going strong.
I agree many of the above posts: Love, respect, common life plans/values, honesty, trust, fun times together, sense of humor, sharing responsibilities, willingness to discuss relationship issues when they come up, sharing fears as well as successes, treating each other as equals.
I have girlfriends who complain about their husbands and have made fun of me because my DH and I are "so nice to each other." Aren't we supposed to be nice to each other? I feel like I married my best friend...so of course I will treat him like my best friend.
We bicker when we are overly tired and occasionally have a heated fight (1 to 2 times a year at most?), although we don't yell. Key to fighting is to keep it on issue...don't bring in all sorts of other complaints and insults, just deal with the issue that made you/him mad.
Honestly, though, I think one of the reasons our relationship is so strong is because we share a great love of the outdoors. We go on long hikes, backpacking trips, and back country ski days together. These times are very powerful in keeping our bond strong. Just this weekend we had an amazing day of back country skiing together. We were both totally high off the experience and had shared it with each other. Days like that help renew our joy of being together...My point being that having some sort of hobby that you both enjoy doing together that gets you out of the daily grind can be wonderful bonding time. It doesn't necessarily have to be in the outdoors...it could be cooking together, dancing, going to see live music, gardening, playing cards...whatever.
I am also just lucky enough to have found such an amazing partner.
Peaches
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by popi
Good communication.
Sense of humour on both sides. Ability to laugh at yourself.
Similar standards of behaviour, similar family background.
Ability to forgive.
Ability to rise above the cycle of blame.
Knowing that you can speak your mind without fear.
Learning the right way to talk to each other when having an argument. Don't accuse, just make statements.
Everyone pulling their weight and working for the good of the family.
Realizing that your family is number one, always comes first.
Willingness to identify problems and adjust your behaviour, by seeking advice, or reading books.
Be supportive because that's what makes them happy.
Tinylady....perhaps you could start a new thread for your posting, you might find it easier to get some suggestions, that way. Take care.
Popi
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by coolmama
My husband and I are BEST friends.We actually enjoy each others company. We have fun together.Whether it's playing video games together,or goofing off at the grocery store. We make every chore or task seem like it's something fun and do it together.
We have no secrets from each other. No matter how painful,we have always been honest.
We always set aside time to be alone.Whether it's a quick bath together or a night on the town.
We realize that life is a gift.That everyday spent together could be our last.Therefore,we don't take each other for granted.
We also give each other space when needed...But don't surround ourselves in "tempting situations" or around people who may be destructive to our relationship (ex girlfriends/boyfriends or overly flirtatious people)
Take care of each other when sick,even if that means running out at 3am to get medicine for the other.
It's the other little things that count.He brings home take out cuz he knows I'm tired. I make his lunch because he doesn't have money for lunch one day.
We have always comforted each other too.I cry after getting a bad haircut,and he holds me and tells me he'd love me if I was bald. He says he is getting fat,I tell him it is just more for me to love.
We take care in our child,our plants,our animals....we nurture them,and each other.
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by sweeby
12 wonderful years so far...
- Total trust and honesty, plus forgiveness for our imperfections. It's a lot easier to be honest when you know the other person will love you no matter what.
- Common values. Our backgrounds are very different, but our core values are identical.
- Putting 'Us' first, then 'You', then 'Me'. Bearing in mind always that what's best for 'Us' IS almost always what's best for me.
- Making time for each other, which sometimes means the kids get a can of something for dinner so Hubby and I can have a special meal alone together.
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by popi
Thought of another one...
Being supportive of each other, when dealing with the children, or child...and if one does not agree with how the other one is handling the situation...then talk about it later, not in front of the child.
Being financially secure, sure helps in the stability of the relationship !
Keep in mind the "big picture", your core values, and what you are doing "it" all for...to have a happy life, only get one chance of that. Making sure each day counts, and like Coolmama says, making your times together happy and meaningful, no matter what the activity is.
I am enjoying reading every one's comments, perhaps we should publish a book from all this !
Popi
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by mandy_g
Here are our "7 Rules to a Happy Marriage":
1. Fall in love and marry your best friend.
2. Be NICE to each other. "Please" and "Thank You" are not cuss words.
3. Have similar tastes on the big stuff - ie. money, politics, child-rearing, religion, etc.
4. Have different tastes on the small stuff (keeps it interesting) - ie. food, decorating, football teams, etc.
5. Talking through a problem instead of yelling (see #2).
6. No argument is allowed to start with "You are...". All arguments/discussions must being with "I feel..." or "I think...".
7. Only 1 person is allowed to be crazy at a time.
8. Never let a day go by without telling the other one that you love them. Even if you are mad.
9. Always pick up your own mess.
10. Never forget - it's us against the world. Everyone else is secondary. Our marriage and our spouse's wishes come before anything else. Even MIL's...
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by asolo
"7. Only 1 person is allowed to be crazy at a time."
Mandy g, you are full of wisdom!!!
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by bnicebkind
1. Be someone trustworthy. In ALL areas. In love, in finances, etc.
2. Cover each others back. In other words, that you both know without a shadow of a doubt, that your spouse believes in you and will stand up for you.
3. Do the small things for each other that tell each other they matter. Greet them with a big smile when they come home. Sew on a button. Bother to make dinner special. Tell each other how much you appreciate them, and that you value them (tell them what it is you value about them)! Let them know that you also appreciate what they do for the family.
4. Be willing to bite your tongue and let things slide......................................once in awhile. Extend grace where you can.
5. Be able to forgive and move on.
6. Try your best not to badmouth each others family. It only makes everyone defensive. We all have flaws.
7. Do not join into "husband bashing" with your friends or family...I see women do this all the time. It is extremely disloyal (would you like your DH sitting around with all the men you know telling them awful things about you? Then don't do it to to him!!! Besides, for those of you who indulge in this past time, keep in mind that it tells other women that things aren't so perfect between you two, and lets another woman know she may be able to squeeze in. Because she won't believe all the bad things you tell her, regardless of what she says. Why, because women think that "she can change him".
8.Be each others biggest fan. Encourage one another. Ask about each others day, and actually listen and care.
9. Do not flirt, or hang around flirts.
10. When one is exhausted, the other rallies. When one is discouraged, the other can encourage.
11. Smile... and be the kind of person that "you" would like to come home to.
12. Simply...love each other. It softens the hard edges in life.
13. LEARN TO PERSEVERE...like an athlete!!!! There will be times in marriage where you feel like running. When you wonder what in the world you were thinking when you chose this person. When you look at them some days, and are not even sure you like the person...let alone love them. Hang in there. Just hang in there, and remember that another day will come when you will feel like the luckiest person in the world to have this same person. Life can be funny that way.
14. Everyone pitch in and keep the house decent. No one wants to come home to a pigsty, and no one feels happy, let alone romantic in one. It weighs heavy on everyone in the house.
15. Believe in something bigger than you both.
There are probably more but it is late, so I will call it a day. By the way, they are not necessarily in the order of importance. Just what popped into my thoughts as I was typing.
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by micke
My husband is my best friend, has been from day one (sorry mom) we have been married 13 years, we are coming up on our 16th anniversary of actually being together (Feb. 14) most people around me are amazed by how long we have been together and by how happy we are. Don't know if there is a secret to it, we don't go out a whole lot, most of the time we are happiest together at home with our two kids. We both have totally different interests and it still works, if he is fishing at my mom's lake I am horseback riding around the lake hollering at him every chance I get asking him how the fishing is going *snicker* yes he thinks I am a smart butt, but he is too, if I am out in the garden working he will try every chance he gets to soak me with the hose "accidentally" and he loves to stand over my shoulder and tell me how he would do it if he was the one cooking (he just wants me to walk off so he can get a finger full of cookie dough:) lots of laughs and lots of fun, wouldn't trade a minute of it:)
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by marriagebygrace
Hello, My wife and I have been married 21 years. We had a rocky period but we allowed God to take control and I must say that "God is great - all the time, all the time - God is great".
Galatians 5:22-23 (22)But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, (23)gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
God Bless!
http://www.marriagebygrace.com/ MarriageByGrace
Here is a link that might be useful: MarriageByGrace
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by aldra
Bursting into a smile every time he walks into the room. After eight years it's still like the day we met.
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by blueeyedgirl
When I first got married I got the best piece of advice I've ever received as far as relationships go. It was very simple:
If he wants to do something and you really have no other reason to say 'no' other than the fact you don't want him to... say yes. Let him have his own time. He'll love you all the more for it. I try to remember this evertime my DH asks if I mind if he goes golfing with his buddies. Sure I'd rather he stayed home and hung out with me and the kids... but he's so much happier and WANTS to thank me by helping out more or doing something sweet for me when he comes home.
RE: What is your secret to your happy marriage
Posted by alphacat
We'll be married for 8 years this summer, and were together for nearly 20 years before that. We've had our rough patches, but I don't think our relationship has ever been seriously in doubt.
I think that the secret, if there is one, is that we each think we're the lucky one, and we try to keep it that way.
Fantastic Reads ~ The Great Books On Marriage
Friday, December 26, 2008 Posted by Shattered Paradigm

This review is from: The Power of a Praying® Husband " I am so impressed with this author. A friend of mine some time ago gave my wife and I "The Power of a Praying Wife" and "The Power of a Praying Husband." When I first read the book I couldn't get through it. As a Catholic Christian I thought that spending a chapter on submission was ridiculous, outdated, and downright fundamentalist. I nearly threw the book away, but instead shoved it into my bookshelf, assuming it to be yet another book by an undereducated fundamentalist someone decided to burden me with. However, my wife and I were arguing about something about six months later, and I thought to myself "stop yelling and get quiet... I can't hear God when I'm loud." I apologized and went to my study, and there on the book shelf was "The Power of a Praying Husband." Aright I thought, prayer is ALWAYS the best answer, lets pray, I began doing a chapter a day. I say "doing" because at the end of each chapter there are prayers, and I prayed them seriously. I also began "doing." I realize many readers of this review will probably think I am going to hell for this, but I believe that faith without works is dead, so I began acting on the implications of what is in the book. I took control of our finances so my wife wouldn't have to worry about paying the bills. She has so much to do already. I started picking up around the house to help her. I started to do so much MORE than I used to. I realized something through the process. I was not an enlightened person in a modern marriage. I was lazy! I began to feel better about myself and more empowered, especially in that I was in charge of the finances and paying the bills etc. My wife became less burdened and much more happy. Our sex life improved and I received a greater sense of purpose in my manhood. Our lives have become happier. This is not an academic book. I spend most of my reading time on serious theology, scripture, and on the history of the early church. I had to get "un-snoby" and read with the simple eyes of a man seeking to be a better and Christian husband. Praise God I did. This book was literally life changing. My wife and I keep our copies of our respective editions by the bed. Really folks, BOTH you and your spouse need to read BOTH editions before judging whether or not this author has an appropriate and Christian agenda. We reread and redo the chapters pretty regularly and our marriage is more rewarding than ever before. I recommend this book wholeheartedly. If found that when I let go of my arrogance and prayed with the book, my life improved. Thanks stormie! "
Couldnt put it down, August 16, 2001 By A Customer This review is from: The Power of a Praying® Husband- "I was going through a very trying time in my marriage and was led to this book, I found out that I do have power and can help my wife cope with the emotions, fears and insecurities in her life, Before I would shy away from her when I did not know what to say or do, I thank GOD for this book. If you are a man needing the tools to be a good husband this book is for you. "

BOOK REVIEW The Mystery of Marriage - Mike Mason
By David R. Bess (Charleston, WV)
" There are thousands of books available on how to prepare for marriage, how to improve upon a marriage, or how to affair-proof a marriage. Mason here departs from the crowd and exults in the institution of marriage itself. His perspective is one of reverent awe rather than analytical examination.
Mason ponders the mystery of marriage from several different angles: otherness, love, intimacy, vows, sex, submission and death. His words are readable, yet profound. His book considers the greatest delights of marriage as well as the greatest demands.
I recommend this volume to anyone wanting to get a better understanding of how God has created marriage, and how He manifests His glory and His grand design through it. I have read many other books on marriage, but none with this unique, awe-inspiring approach. This work is a true classic! "
By Mike Chambers (Stafford, TX USA)
"This review is from: The Mystery of Marriage (Hardcover)Mike Mason's "The Mystery of Marriage" is an inspired and inspiring work, a breathtaking work of prose which reveals the transcendency of marriage, from the physical to the spiritual. Without preaching, Mason tells the story of his stepping away at the last moment from life in a monastery to embrace a life-consuming love in marriage. In a work which is profoundly honest and intimate, we glimpse the spiritual nature of marriage so easily lost in our chaotic world. Mason's openness, honesty and vulnerability, give us a work of incredible love which is beyond human ability to share. I am moved to tears by the love of Christ poured out on these pages."
By Kitty Law
"This review is from: The Mystery of Marriage (Hardcover) Well, I guess it's about time to write a review for Mystery of Marriage after reading it over and over many times since my husband and I were first dating (8 years ago) and after giving it as a wedding gift to every single bride and groom we know. This book is a masterpiece. It stands alone as the most richly woven piece of literature about the state of being married that I have ever read. Mike Mason puts eloquent, authentic words to the feelings every husband and wife experience in a manner that makes you SO glad that you're married (or about to be) EVEN IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCING REAL STRUGGLE. You cannot help but be moved by his riveting description of the marriage union...both the utter agony and the sheer bliss. The book builds as the true MYSTERY of marriage unfolds before you...the very thing we all long to understand and to grasp. Once you're into this book for very long, what will really send deep shivers through your soul is the realization that this unbelievabley 'impossible' union we are trying to have with our mate is only hinting at the extraordinary marriage between our God and us. Yes, this beautiful analogy has been written of numerous times before, but trust me...not like this. I would recommend ordering at least TWO copies of this book... one to give away and one to read simultaneously with your partner.(I suggest alone, because these words are powerful and seering, and to be most effective, perhaps need to be contemplated deeply in solitude.) You will not be sorry to have invested in this book...and don't let the 'gift book' appearance turn you off...I believe it was packaged this way to encourage giving it to couples. Give it to YOURSELF first. And to God be the Glory! "
The Five Love Languages - by Gary Chapman
By Sandra L. Tish (MN USA)
The author reveals, through 25 years of counseling, that he has determined people communicate love in five basic ways.They are Quality Time, Words of Affirmation, Acts of Service, Physical Touch and Giving Gifts. For example, if my primary love language is Quality Time, then I will show my love to others by spending quality time with them. If I don't receive that in return, my love tank will be empty. The author stresses the importance of knowing your loved one's love language so that you can communicate love to that person in a way in which he/she feels love, so that their love tank can be continually replenished. If my spous's love language is acts of service and he is always doing things for me to communicate his love, but I receive love through the language of quality time, I will not receive his acts of service as communicating love and therefore my love tank will be dry. I in return, must communicate my love to him through acts of service in order to fill his love tank. An empty love tank causes relationships to deteriorate.This book was excellent for teaching us to recognize the way in which our loved ones receive and feel loved.
BEST GIFT I HAVE EVER RECEIVED, CHANGED MY ENTIRE LIFE, October 4, 1999
By A Customer" It is so simple and easy to understand. After I read it, I couldn't understand why I hadn't realized these concepts before. I wish I could give a copy of this book to every man, woman, and child. What a wonderful world we would have if we all understood the "Five Love Languages" and spoke them to all we meet everyday!! The family is a great place to start. My family and I regularly ask eachother "How full is the 'love tank?'". When things are tough at school, work or life in general, we now ask eachother freely "What can I do to make your love tank full?" Sometimes only the passing of time will cure a family problem (example: problems at work), but our family's committment to express to eachother the variety of dialects between quality time, words of affirmation, and physical touch (which seem to be the most needed of the 5 languages in our particular household when outside problems occur) can make the hardest of times go by so much easier and faster. How I wish everyone would read this book!!! "
Would You Like To Be A Guest Poster On This Blog?
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 Posted by Shattered Paradigm
Would you like to be a guest poster on one of our blogs? We are taking guest post submissions, and if you have something you would like to share on one of our blogs please send it to this email address:guestpostsandsubmissions@hotmail.com
Don't forget to include which blog you would like it posted on and don't forget to include a link back to your blog or website if you want us to link back to your site.
The following is a list of our blogs where we will be starting to feature guest posts along with our regular content:
The Final Hour
Shattered Paradigm
The Moral Collapse Of America
FutureStorm
Evidence For Christianity
The Weird News Blog
Funny Stuff
The End Times Blog
Power Blogging Tips
The Return Of The Nephilim
Tips For Building A Great Marriage And Family
The Political Jungle
LOLCats
The First Thing That Barack Obama Will Do As President
Wednesday, December 17, 2008 Posted by Shattered Paradigm
-- Senator Barack Obama, speaking to the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, July 17, 2007
Are You Planning To Give An Inspirational Speech To Your Family And Need Some Material?
Thursday, December 11, 2008 Posted by Shattered Paradigm
Something that will really get them going?
The YouTube video below has patched together inspirational speeches from 40 major motion pictures to create the most gigantic, mega-inspirational speech of all time.
So if your family is feeling a bit down, then perhaps you can inspire them with some of the lines from this video. Or maybe not.
In any event, it is very funny.
How many of these movies can you recognize?:
Marriage and Family Speed Links - Planned Parenthood Nurse Admits That Some Babies Born Alive During Abortions Are Left To Die
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 Posted by Shattered Paradigm
*A new study reveals that teenagers are less intelligent than a generation ago. Are we failing the next generation?
*Are school textbooks actively promoting Islam to the schoolchildren of America? What would the ACLU say if those same textbooks were promoting Christianity?
*An increasing number of Christians in America embraced and celebrated Halloween this year. Does anyone else find this troubling or is it just us?
*Did you realize that the government of Peru goes door to door pressuring women to be sterilized? Did you know that it is paid for with U.S. tax dollars?
*Crystal Cathedral founder Robert Schuller has removed his son as the preacher on the church's weekly "Hour of Power" television broadcast. It is not known at this time what caused the rift between them.
*Fluoride is now being added to children's milk in areas of the U.K.
*Lastly, a leading Scottish clergyman is using the word "Nazi" to describe the U.K.'s new "Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill". Will more religious leaders take a stand against cloning?


